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As far as cleaned the ice, i mean that it was real choppy and if there was a divit or something that caused
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drg     Reply with quote
her fallshe would have never seen it because of all the ice shavings from other blades. I am not out to get rich and l certainly wouldnt sue just to do it, but this is a place that they advertise for you to come and bring your kids, its free to skate, you just pay for skates, and according to them they have no liability insurance. l did not know that skating was so dangerous and had l known l would have never taken my baby girl. It just really sucks because she was not able to play basketball this year, she had to quit dance, she may not be ready for softball season and she cant go to school. Her classrooms are on the second floor (no elevator)and the Doc said no steps on crutches. She cant even take a shower or a bath because of this cast. She cant sleep in he room because of the steps.People fall and get hurt all the time, l know this, but how many fall and break there ''tiba'' and end up in this mess.
Star     Reply with quote
as far as l know, no rink will pay for medical bills, skating is a dangerous sport, alot of ppl like to fool around on the ice but thy dont notice its dangerous, ive seen ppl break noses, get concussions, & ive even seen a stretcher come on the ice. but what was ur daughter doing? cut ice ( clean ice) is probably more dangerous as it is more slippery, unless ur daughter wer doing spins, l dont know how she cud have fallen that badly, was she with friends? mb thy were playing around & she fell. most rinks dont pay for bills as it wud cost too much with how many ppl get hurt daily. im sorry about ur daughter but she will get better & u cant put the blame on the rink.
Clone     Reply with quote
l believe most rinks usually have a ''skate at ur own risk'' policy. There is not a lot they can do to prevent ruts & holes in the ice. They're caused by public skaters (who sometimes think it is cool to chip holes in the ice), hockey usage & figure skater usage. One or two resurfaces will not necessarily smooth them out either. If u were to go after them to pay medical bills, it would be a civil issue, probably requiring an attorney..which can also be expensive. There r a lot of rinks that have free open skating from time to time & only charge for skate rentals. Skating can be dangerous, but it is also like anything else..accidents happen. She could have fallen & hurt herself just walking down the sidewalk.
Doctor     Reply with quote
You seem to be asking if the fall itself was unusual. Ice is slippery, & u can potentially go faster than just running in shoes on regular ground. Skate blades r meant to make u go faster. It is plausible that she got hurt worse than just ''from a fall'' (from ur previous question) because u have to factor in speed & momentum.

In general, people definitely do get injured from ice skating. I've seen kids get their fingers run over. The most common injury from a fall I've personally seen is conking their heads (especially backwards) which is why they recommend helmets when they're beginners. Broken or sprained wrists r another common injury. A lady at my rink, who is an experienced figure skater, slipped when she was getting off the ice & broke her hip.

A rut in the ice is very common, & it does not normally cause a fall - u have to hit it just right with ur toepick or the back of ur blade. It does not make u fall every time u skate over one, only if u hit it the wrong way. If someone makes a hole in the ice (figure skaters do this every time they do a big toe-assisted jump) it is not cause for a well-maintained rink to clear everyone off the ice & re-surface. They'd have to resurface dozens of times per hour! It is just that common.

l feel for you, but l am afraid you're not going to get the answer u want here. Your only hope would be that they paid up without a fight - but there was no reason for them to do that, because although it is very unfortunate & sounds like a worse injury than ur usual daily rink injury, they do not promise a pristine surface 100% of the time. You can pursue it with a lawyer, but l do not think u will have a case. Good luck - it is too bad about all of ur daughter is activities.
Coach     Reply with quote
l already gave my answer in the other question, but l will say it myself: I've had my fair of injuries from my sport, but l accept the risks & continue doing them.

I've subluxated my right knee twice where the knee twisted up to 180° backwards & then snapped back into position automatically & never bothered to get medical treatment for it, l just rehabilitated it & save for some pain every now & then when l am not doing any exercise, nothing serious to quit my sport. l even fell once on an outside edge forward counter step & the concussion was strong enough to leave me unconscious briefly. l wo not even mention the tons of times I've hit my right knee really hard on falls. And this is singles skating which is the safest discipline l am talking about.
Fortunately I've never experienced what a Waxel fall feels like (though once l was pretty close to find out).

Tibia fractures in children r amazingly common. I've known dozens of people that had them, got a cast, 8 weeks later good as new. It is amazing I've never broken a bone myself because my bones r so amazingly thin looking (I've had doctors laugh at how l have the bones of a child a LOT). It is just bad luck l guess that some people with one slight thing breaks a bone & l have a car door smash my fingers at full speed with no fracture.

Exercise causes ur bones to harden though. If ur daughter did more exercise, her bones will harden more & more as a defense mechanism & she probably wo not fracture herself again.

As for the dangers of skating & not taking her anywhere, l will be frank & say l find riding in a car to be one of the most dangerous things ever. Cars r death chambers, half of the young people l know have been in a car crash serious enough for them to need to wear a neck collar. Car crashes r one of the most common causes of serious injuries & death in the world. Better buy a bike or a private jet which r far safer.
Kim     Reply with quote
Most rinks resurface their ice at regular intervals. In between those times, the ice can get choppy & have a lot of shavings on the surface, especially during a public skate, where there tend to be a lot of skaters, most of whom r not skating with any particular level of skill.

Your daughter is injury is unusual in its severity, but it is not unheard of. I've actually seen elite level skaters, skating on nearly pristine ice, get their blade caught in a rut or similar & break their ankle in their skate boot - not so easy to do, but they caught & twisted so severely, & at speed. Even at rinks which pay great care to the condition of their ice, a resurfacing does not always fully get rid of prior ruts.

In general, you'd expect that the rink would have done resurfacings at regular intervals, & with some standard of care. If they did not, u may have something to talk about. But even if they had done, that does not guarantee a pristine ice surface, & once skaters get out there, ruts & shavings & etc. will occur.

You certainly can speak to a lawyer on this, & since you're so upset, l suggest that u make that ur next step. For peace of mind if nothing else, it is worth the conversation. But it is possible that the case wo not go anywhere, so be prepared for that.
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